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		<title>By: thomas</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2011 06:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the end it should feel as doing nothing. Just being in the midst of the Universe as happy as ever for no reason what so ever.</description>
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		<title>By: Zhong Ding (Équilibre centrale) et travail de la posture sur neigong.net &#124; Lumière du Tao</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zhong Ding (Équilibre centrale) et travail de la posture sur neigong.net &#124; Lumière du Tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Sep 2010 20:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Leonledragon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leonledragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 May 2010 11:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many taoist including Wang Liping consider long time post standing as dangerous for the body and and the mind ! Never force yourself to stay a certain fixed time (whats is time ?). Especialyty minimum 20 minutes seem far too hight for a beginner. Da chenQuan or Yi Quan is an exception, but the longevity of the masters of this art is not remarquable…</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many taoist including Wang Liping consider long time post standing as dangerous for the body and and the mind ! Never force yourself to stay a certain fixed time (whats is time ?). Especialyty minimum 20 minutes seem far too hight for a beginner. Da chenQuan or Yi Quan is an exception, but the longevity of the masters of this art is not remarquable…</p>
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		<title>By: thomas</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 10:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Constantly search for the center of gravity and release tension where ever you find it. Absorb the Qi from all directions to the furnace in your center, Radiate and fill the Universe to the brim with your compassionate Qi. Do not hold on to anything. Unite with the great Tao. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Constantly search for the center of gravity and release tension where ever you find it. Absorb the Qi from all directions to the furnace in your center, Radiate and fill the Universe to the brim with your compassionate Qi. Do not hold on to anything. Unite with the great Tao. <img src='http://neigong.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: thomas</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 14:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Literature: 

Chinese Qigong Therapy, Shandong Science and Technology Press, Jinan, China 1985 p. 33 - 39.</description>
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<p>Chinese Qigong Therapy, Shandong Science and Technology Press, Jinan, China 1985 p. 33 &#8211; 39.</p>
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		<title>By: Muladhara Chakra &#124; 內功 Neigong.net</title>
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		<dc:creator>Muladhara Chakra &#124; 內功 Neigong.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 14:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 10:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is really no position that are right or wrong as long as you adhere to the principles. You can stand with the hands facing your shoulders, wider, or more narrow. Some people open up the thumbs so that they point straight up, believing its more beneficial to the lungs. Some believe that the index finger is closing the circle of energy. Some give the hands away in gesture and squeeze the big paper ball. Some but emphasis in hollowing the hands as if holding small vacuum balls at each of the laogong points in the center of the hands. Some regulate the hands with the breathing, making minute changes through in and out breath and around the bones; making a small shili exercise. Some use yet other visualizations to guide the mind and body. 

Different positions cultivate different aspects of your standing practice. 

What do you want from your standing practice?

Of main importance is structural equilibrium and relaxing (sung) both the body and mind. But do not slump or collaps the body. The body structure is finely threaded together without any breaks, with no deficiency or excess. Apply the all the structural principles: &quot;Keep bones all over the body well balanced,
Bending of joints is kept with a limit.&quot; Central equilibrium. The shoulder to the hip. The knees to elbows. The hands to the feet. There no place where the energy does not reach. Leave out excess tensions. An expression often used in qigong is: &quot;bathing&quot;. Look for the feeling as if your whole body was submerged in body warm  bathtub

Bathing your body in the midst of the air, 
standing on a mountain top.

Connecting the heaven and earth.
The primordial energy returns to dantien.

Smiling,
I disappear. 

(Forget about right and  wrong and strive towards natural perfection).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is really no position that are right or wrong as long as you adhere to the principles. You can stand with the hands facing your shoulders, wider, or more narrow. Some people open up the thumbs so that they point straight up, believing its more beneficial to the lungs. Some believe that the index finger is closing the circle of energy. Some give the hands away in gesture and squeeze the big paper ball. Some but emphasis in hollowing the hands as if holding small vacuum balls at each of the laogong points in the center of the hands. Some regulate the hands with the breathing, making minute changes through in and out breath and around the bones; making a small shili exercise. Some use yet other visualizations to guide the mind and body. </p>
<p>Different positions cultivate different aspects of your standing practice. </p>
<p>What do you want from your standing practice?</p>
<p>Of main importance is structural equilibrium and relaxing (sung) both the body and mind. But do not slump or collaps the body. The body structure is finely threaded together without any breaks, with no deficiency or excess. Apply the all the structural principles: &#8220;Keep bones all over the body well balanced,<br />
Bending of joints is kept with a limit.&#8221; Central equilibrium. The shoulder to the hip. The knees to elbows. The hands to the feet. There no place where the energy does not reach. Leave out excess tensions. An expression often used in qigong is: &#8220;bathing&#8221;. Look for the feeling as if your whole body was submerged in body warm  bathtub</p>
<p>Bathing your body in the midst of the air,<br />
standing on a mountain top.</p>
<p>Connecting the heaven and earth.<br />
The primordial energy returns to dantien.</p>
<p>Smiling,<br />
I disappear. </p>
<p>(Forget about right and  wrong and strive towards natural perfection).</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 12:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Emne: About standing meditation - and the hands and fingers


Hallo Thomas,

I hope it is ok to address you. And thanks for a very informative webpage, which I was happy to find.

I appreciated very much reading some notes about a course that you participated in, led by Sam Tam last year, I believe.

I was particularly interested in the comments of the hands, that you posted:

&quot; Each hand holding a small paper ball holding a big balloon of air towards the body so it cannot escape. Amble space to the armpits as if holding a small ball of air. The index finger and the middle finger is kept just above shoulder hight. Both thumbs pointing relaxed up as if a string in the first joint to the heavens where holding them up (releasing the shoulders even more). The two middle fingers pointing straight towards each other. The index fingers lifting a small bird. The two pinkies extend down (helping both the elbows). Fingers held together as if holding cigarettes in-between them. Adjusting the position to find perfect alignment and releasing all tension. Pressure in the back can sometimes be relieved by decreasing the angle between the arms within the range and holding the ball closer to the body. All done with poise to increase the relaxation and fine tune body alignment.&quot;

Some other person also write:

&quot;palms pointing in and slightly down&quot;


A few question, I also have seen a few pictures of people doing this, and there seems to be some degree of variability.


I would very much like to get a little better grip on:

- should the palms be more like facing the shoulders the body- flat/parallel to the body, or should they be facing down a bit towards the ground, with a small tilt of say 20-30 % -like in this picture (also attached)

- but then the thumbs will tend point a bit towards you, or how much should the be pointing towards the sky/uppwards

- and the two middle fingers should they pointing straiht towards each other in a straight line.

When I look at this picture:

The palms face a bit domn, but the middle fingers are not pointing towards each other, at least not more than any other fingers, thumbs are not really pointing up, and the index fingers are not holding a bird?

What is your take on this,?

Would be very happy if you provide some guiding tips, and you are most welcome if you so wishes to post it on your web (but then only in my first name). Also do you have anything good suggestions to read about hand/fingers positions, in a book, article, blog etc.

Many thanks

Sincerely and best regads

Thomas M

Stockholm

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emne: About standing meditation &#8211; and the hands and fingers</p>
<p>Hallo Thomas,</p>
<p>I hope it is ok to address you. And thanks for a very informative webpage, which I was happy to find.</p>
<p>I appreciated very much reading some notes about a course that you participated in, led by Sam Tam last year, I believe.</p>
<p>I was particularly interested in the comments of the hands, that you posted:</p>
<p>&#8221; Each hand holding a small paper ball holding a big balloon of air towards the body so it cannot escape. Amble space to the armpits as if holding a small ball of air. The index finger and the middle finger is kept just above shoulder hight. Both thumbs pointing relaxed up as if a string in the first joint to the heavens where holding them up (releasing the shoulders even more). The two middle fingers pointing straight towards each other. The index fingers lifting a small bird. The two pinkies extend down (helping both the elbows). Fingers held together as if holding cigarettes in-between them. Adjusting the position to find perfect alignment and releasing all tension. Pressure in the back can sometimes be relieved by decreasing the angle between the arms within the range and holding the ball closer to the body. All done with poise to increase the relaxation and fine tune body alignment.&#8221;</p>
<p>Some other person also write:</p>
<p>&#8220;palms pointing in and slightly down&#8221;</p>
<p>A few question, I also have seen a few pictures of people doing this, and there seems to be some degree of variability.</p>
<p>I would very much like to get a little better grip on:</p>
<p>- should the palms be more like facing the shoulders the body- flat/parallel to the body, or should they be facing down a bit towards the ground, with a small tilt of say 20-30 % -like in this picture (also attached)</p>
<p>- but then the thumbs will tend point a bit towards you, or how much should the be pointing towards the sky/uppwards</p>
<p>- and the two middle fingers should they pointing straiht towards each other in a straight line.</p>
<p>When I look at this picture:</p>
<p>The palms face a bit domn, but the middle fingers are not pointing towards each other, at least not more than any other fingers, thumbs are not really pointing up, and the index fingers are not holding a bird?</p>
<p>What is your take on this,?</p>
<p>Would be very happy if you provide some guiding tips, and you are most welcome if you so wishes to post it on your web (but then only in my first name). Also do you have anything good suggestions to read about hand/fingers positions, in a book, article, blog etc.</p>
<p>Many thanks</p>
<p>Sincerely and best regads</p>
<p>Thomas M</p>
<p>Stockholm</p>
<p>￼</p>
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		<title>By: thomas</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 12:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;&quot;]&lt;strong&gt;Song of Central Equilibrium...&lt;/strong&gt;

Find center!
Relax the chest.
Raise the back.
Enclose the solar plexus.
Protect the cheekbones.
Lift the head.
Suspend solar plexus.
Loosen the shoulders.
Sink the elbows.
Be evasive.
Avoid conflict.
( Wu-Yü-hisiang )
Many qigon practitioners and mast...[/quote]</description>
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<p>Find center!<br />
Relax the chest.<br />
Raise the back.<br />
Enclose the solar plexus.<br />
Protect the cheekbones.<br />
Lift the head.<br />
Suspend solar plexus.<br />
Loosen the shoulders.<br />
Sink the elbows.<br />
Be evasive.<br />
Avoid conflict.<br />
( Wu-Yü-hisiang )<br />
Many qigon practitioners and mast&#8230;[/quote]</p>
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		<title>By: thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 16:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Continue to refine the process of releasing tensions.

Relax the internal organs (lungs, heart, liver, spleen, kindneys and stomach) one by one when sinking the chi to dantian. 

Notes from Sam Tam&#039;s sommer seminar in Copenhagen 2007</description>
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<p>Relax the internal organs (lungs, heart, liver, spleen, kindneys and stomach) one by one when sinking the chi to dantian. </p>
<p>Notes from Sam Tam&#8217;s sommer seminar in Copenhagen 2007</p>
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